Feb 17, 2011 17:03
13 yrs ago
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Italian term
"morti bianche"
Italian to English
Social Sciences
Human Resources
In a book on architecture in a chapter on construction sites.
I know that these are fatal accidents at the workplace and that they are called "bianchi" because nobody is responsible. I posted it to see if anyone knows of a similar term in English. Otherwise I will just side-step it with "fatal accidents at work".
"Infatti, il Legislatore ha cercato di porre un freno al triste fenomeno delle “morti bianche” con emanazioni successive di norme volte a incentrare sui concetti di prevenzione e formazione il problema della sicurezza nei luoghi di lavoro.
"Infatti, il Legislatore ha cercato di porre un freno al triste fenomeno delle “morti bianche” con emanazioni successive di norme volte a incentrare sui concetti di prevenzione e formazione il problema della sicurezza nei luoghi di lavoro.
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"white deaths" /workplace deaths
'white deaths' would be a literal translation from the Italian. Maybe it could be used in inverted commas followed by something along the lines of 'workplace deaths' or 'workplace accidents'... but again this is just a suggestion!
This is from an interesting article on the bbc news website:
"Italians compare it to a plague, labelling the casualties "white deaths"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7036442.stm
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Thanks for the insight, Oliver. That didn't cross my mind at all! I think that the expression "morti bianche" is very culture-bound for its many implications (workers' movement) and the criticism around the use of the term itself. Colours might evoke different emotions/concepts in different languages and in this case the use of the adjective 'white' suggests the lack of responsibility, an implied reference to the concept of innocence (hence the debate on the use of this expression among those who seek justice for people who died in the workplace due to poor safety measures). In the light of the above, an expansion could help clearing a possible misinterpretation. But at the end of the day, any cultural connotation might be worth keeping or not depending on the tone of the text and the target reader...
This is from an interesting article on the bbc news website:
"Italians compare it to a plague, labelling the casualties "white deaths"."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7036442.stm
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Note added at 2 days18 hrs (2011-02-20 11:51:06 GMT)
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Thanks for the insight, Oliver. That didn't cross my mind at all! I think that the expression "morti bianche" is very culture-bound for its many implications (workers' movement) and the criticism around the use of the term itself. Colours might evoke different emotions/concepts in different languages and in this case the use of the adjective 'white' suggests the lack of responsibility, an implied reference to the concept of innocence (hence the debate on the use of this expression among those who seek justice for people who died in the workplace due to poor safety measures). In the light of the above, an expansion could help clearing a possible misinterpretation. But at the end of the day, any cultural connotation might be worth keeping or not depending on the tone of the text and the target reader...
Note from asker:
Thank you Paola and to everybody who answered. It was the BBC link which convinced me. If it was good enough for them, it was good enough for me. I put it in inverted commas with an explanation in brackets explaining that "white" meant that no one was responsible. |
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ARS54
: ...very good, in a ctx from or about Italy - better if put between quotation marks/inverted commas, Anna Rosa
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Thanks for your comment, Anna!
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Oliver Lawrence
: I would be vary chary of using "white", as IMHO is not at all idiomatic and suggests deaths of white people as opposed to those of other races
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Interesting comment, Oliver!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
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Italian term (edited):
\"morti bianche\"
workplace fatalities
Bit boring, but seems to get lots of hits
Peer comment(s):
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darwilliam
: perhaps dull, but seems to be a very good way to put it :)
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agree |
Lorraine Buckley (X)
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agree |
Yvonne Gallagher
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agree |
P.L.F. Persio
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'freak' fatal accidents at work
another option
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freak workplace deaths
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San Antonio Fatal Work Accident Lawyers : Texas Wrongful ...
Michael Grossman, San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney, Discusses Fatal Workplace Accidents: ... As another example, if an oil pipeline explodes in a freak accident that no ...
injurylawyersofsanantonio.com/.../fatal-workplace-accidents - Cached
San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney : Fatal Work Accidents ...
San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney Michael Grossman Discusses Fatal Workplace Accidents: ... One more example: if an oil pipeline explodes due to some sort of freak ...
injurylawyersofsanantonio.com/wrongful-death/wrongful... - Cached
Car Accident, Auto Accidents, Accident, Car Crash, Lawyers ...
Broken Bone Car Accidents . More Fatal Auto Crashes . Accident? Find Car Accident Lawyers National Network Find Auto Injury Crash Attorneys
www.car-accidents.com - Cached
Nothing freakish about fatal gymnast's accident, mum says
[Jun 24, 2009] Nothing freakish about fatal gymnast's accident, mum ... Workplace Health and Safety Queensland is investigating ... " Freak accidents happen all the time at gymnastics - that's ...
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/24/2606839.htm - Cached.Contractor calls fatal roof collapse 'freak accident'
... February 19, 2010 . Contractor calls fatal roof collapse 'freak ... C&R Building Supply had seven minor workplace ... "freak accidents" come with big price tags. Get a ...
www.wral.com/news/local/story/7080797 - Cached
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or
freak workplace deaths
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Note added at 15 mins (2011-02-17 17:19:03 GMT)
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San Antonio Fatal Work Accident Lawyers : Texas Wrongful ...
Michael Grossman, San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney, Discusses Fatal Workplace Accidents: ... As another example, if an oil pipeline explodes in a freak accident that no ...
injurylawyersofsanantonio.com/.../fatal-workplace-accidents - Cached
San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney : Fatal Work Accidents ...
San Antonio Wrongful Death Attorney Michael Grossman Discusses Fatal Workplace Accidents: ... One more example: if an oil pipeline explodes due to some sort of freak ...
injurylawyersofsanantonio.com/wrongful-death/wrongful... - Cached
Car Accident, Auto Accidents, Accident, Car Crash, Lawyers ...
Broken Bone Car Accidents . More Fatal Auto Crashes . Accident? Find Car Accident Lawyers National Network Find Auto Injury Crash Attorneys
www.car-accidents.com - Cached
Nothing freakish about fatal gymnast's accident, mum says
[Jun 24, 2009] Nothing freakish about fatal gymnast's accident, mum ... Workplace Health and Safety Queensland is investigating ... " Freak accidents happen all the time at gymnastics - that's ...
www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/24/2606839.htm - Cached.Contractor calls fatal roof collapse 'freak accident'
... February 19, 2010 . Contractor calls fatal roof collapse 'freak ... C&R Building Supply had seven minor workplace ... "freak accidents" come with big price tags. Get a ...
www.wral.com/news/local/story/7080797 - Cached
Peer comment(s):
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Joel Schaefer
: "freak" covers the idea that no one is responsible (but that's convenient for the employers...)
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I thought that was the idea
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unexplained deaths
see
Trends in deaths: Analysis of Australain data 1987-98 with updates
Formato file: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Visualizzazione rapida
Also, work safety and road safety campaigns, and improvements in ... no medical practitioner can certify the cause of death (e.g. unexplained deaths), then ...
www.aihw.gov.au/publications/phe/td00/td00-c01.pdf
... and Safety and the international Euro Labour data for work safety programs, ..... It reports on all sudden, unexpected, and unexplained deaths in the ...
www2.itssti.hc-sc.gc.ca/clf/clfinventory.../InventoryE.htm
Facts - Glenoaks Pathology Medical Group
Any workplace death. Any death caused by an agent or a disease that poses a public health threat. A sudden or suspicious, unexplained or unexpected death. ...
www.glenoakspathology.com/facts.shtml
Trends in deaths: Analysis of Australain data 1987-98 with updates
Formato file: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Visualizzazione rapida
Also, work safety and road safety campaigns, and improvements in ... no medical practitioner can certify the cause of death (e.g. unexplained deaths), then ...
www.aihw.gov.au/publications/phe/td00/td00-c01.pdf
... and Safety and the international Euro Labour data for work safety programs, ..... It reports on all sudden, unexpected, and unexplained deaths in the ...
www2.itssti.hc-sc.gc.ca/clf/clfinventory.../InventoryE.htm
Facts - Glenoaks Pathology Medical Group
Any workplace death. Any death caused by an agent or a disease that poses a public health threat. A sudden or suspicious, unexplained or unexpected death. ...
www.glenoakspathology.com/facts.shtml
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fatal work-related accidents
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no fault fatal accidents at work
"Morti bianche" are work related deaths where there is NO evidence of foul play, negligence by either the worker or employer, no violation of safety standards. According to a RAI news report, the fact that "morti bianche" is on the increase here in Italy seems to indicate that it is more than just a "freak" accident.
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Deaths on the job
My idea, but looking on the web, it's seems to be right.
Peer comment(s):
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Oliver Lawrence
: I would avoid this, as "on the job" is slang for "whilst having sex"!
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Mmm... I didn't know :-) maybe it's better not to' use it then!
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white deaths at work / work victims
morti sul lavoro
Peer comment(s):
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Oliver Lawrence
: I would be vary chary of using "white", as IMHO is not at all idiomatic and suggests deaths of white people as opposed to those of other races
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Discussion
Question put to a solicitor in the UK with extensive experience in personal injury and insurance litigation, inc. H&S at work: ‘Where accidents in the workplace are concerned, have you ever heard of the expression 'white deaths' and if so, what does it mean to you?’
Response: ‘No idea. Sorry. Never heard of it!’