Glossary entry

Dutch term or phrase:

orientatie

English translation:

orientation

Added to glossary by Michael Beijer
Jun 21, 2015 08:23
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Dutch term

orientatie

Dutch to English Science Geology
In een bepaald gebied (onderwater) liggen zandbanken met een "zuidoost-noordwest orientatie".

Wat wil dit nou eigenlijk zeggen?
Proposed translations (English)
3 +1 orientation
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Aug 26, 2015 11:45: Michael Beijer Created KOG entry

Discussion

Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 22, 2015:
Voor de duidelijkheid Terwijl Tina's parafrasering mogelijk was bedoeld als een uitgangspositie voor een vertaling...is mijn enige preoccupatie uitleg van de betekenis van de uitdrukking.

Met de vertaling van de uitdrukking "zuidoost-noordwest oriëntatie" houd ik me even niet bezig.

Ik reageer slechts op:

Wat wil dit nou eigenlijk zeggen?

Well, see my explanation and my reference.
Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any further need for clarification. :-)

I will be glad to cater to any of your needs. :-)

Barend
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 22, 2015:
Waarom zo moeilijk doen? Die zandbanken volgen gewoon een lijn die van het zuidoosten naar het noordwesten loopt.

En die zandbanken kunnen in principe/theoretisch elke oriëntatie ten opzichte van de kust hebben, van parallel tot loodrecht.
Barend van Zadelhoff Jun 22, 2015:
Nou... Volgens mij betekent een "zuidoost-noordwest orientatie" niet per se dat de zandbanken' schuin voor de kust liggen.

Neem Nederland.
De kustlijn loopt van zuidwest naar noordoost.
Stel dat de zandbanken parallel lopen aan de kust.

Deze zandbanken (die parellel lopen aan de kust) hebben een zuidwest-noordoost oriëntie.

Nou jij weer. :-)
Michael Beijer Jun 22, 2015:
@Tina: Bedankt! Wist niet dat jij een zandbankspecialist was! ;)
Tina Vonhof (X) Jun 22, 2015:
De zandbanken liggen schuin voor de kust met het zuidelijke uiteinde naar het zuidwesten en het noordelijke uiteinde naar het noordoosten (met het vaste land ten westen en de zee ten oosten ervan).
Michael Beijer Jun 21, 2015:
for what it's worth… I have absolutely no idea what I’m talking about. Just Googling
Michael Beijer Jun 21, 2015:
@Emma: If you really want to understand what's going on, you might want to investigate so-called:

up-current "stoss* slopes" and down-current "lee (aka sheltered) slopes"

* "Stoss is a word used to denote the upstream side of a landform or sedimentary feature" (http://geology.about.com/od/glossaryofgeology/g/Stoss.htm )
writeaway Jun 21, 2015:
You were not able to find any info at all by researching this on your own? In English or in Dutch?

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orientation

Not entirely sure what it means, but this is how it is commonly referred to. See e.g.:

"The sandbanks have a north-west to south-east orientation and are thought to be progressively, though very slowly, elongating in a north-easterly direction (perpendicular to their long axes) (Cooper et al., 2008). They extend from about 40km (22 nautical miles) off the north-east coast of Norfolk out to approximately 110km (60n miles) (Collins et al., 1995). (http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/ProtectedSites/SACselection/sac.asp... )

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See also: "The banks are tidally-influenced estuary mouth sandbanks, the southern banks aligned approximately east-west in the direction of tidal currents entering the Thames Estuary from the English Channel whereas Long Sand is aligned in a north east - south west orientation with influence from the North Sea. In common with all sandbanks the structure of the banks is dynamic and there have been significant movements of the bank edges over time." (same web page)

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I think I sort of understand it now. Try drawing it on a piece of paper; it helps to make it clearer.

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NOTE: my second ref. is actually from here: http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/protectedsites/sacselection/habitat... (sorry, I posted the answer from my mobile phone)
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this should clarify things somewhat:

"In his description of some Cretaceous sand banks Campbell (1971) noted bioturbated sets of cross-stratification with the facing direction of the foresets consistently directed towards the south-east, parallel to the former bank crests. The analogy with the Norfolk sand banks, located off the eastern coast of England, is close. These ***north-west to south-east oriented sand banks*** have sand waves moving north-westwards on the stoss slopes and predominantly south-eastwards on the preservable seaward facing lee slope, although it should be noted that the migration direction of sand waves on the upper parts of the stoss and lee slopes veers towards the Crestline (Fig. 4.25). Each of these modern sand banks has some resemblance to an elongate clockwise circulation cell of sand (Section 3.4.5), although not in the simple form envisaged by some workers (Swift, 1975)." ("Offshore Tidal Sands: Processes and deposits", By A. H. Stide: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=UFMpBgAAQBAJ&pg=PT357&lp... )

=> "sandbanks with a north-west to south-east orientation"

can also be written as

"north-west to south-east oriented sandbanks")
Peer comment(s):

agree Kitty Brussaard
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Reference comments

3 hrs
Reference:

(S24/S125, 126) Fig. 5

Zie Fig 5 (greppel) 126

Betekenis:

de zandbanken lopen van zuidoost naar noordwest
de zandbanken lopen in zuidoost-noordwestelijke richting
etc.

Ik neem aan dat je dat snapt.
Maar misschien heb je last van windroosblindheid. :-)

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