Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

le climat social en entreprise

English translation:

Industrial relations / Industrial climate

Added to glossary by Lara Barnett
May 4, 2017 09:37
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French term

le climat social en entreprise

Non-PRO French to English Bus/Financial General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters Request for Trade Union meeting
This is the letter to the MD of a cement company (in Cameroon), which is currently implementing unwanted changes to working condiitons and attempting to break staff contracts, asking for a meeting to discuss the:

"Nous venons..... solliciter une audience ce a une date de votre convenience.... pour une visite de travail sur le theme relatif au role du syndicat et le climat social en entreprise."

I have tried various phrases such as,

"social environment", "sense of community", "general feeling in the company",

...but I am not sure I am getting across the point properly.
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Discussion

Nikki Scott-Despaigne May 4, 2017:
Be careful with this one Working atmosphere is perhaps a little short of the full meaning of this term. Working atmosphere is quite general, however, industrial relations seems a better solution. The FR "social" does really include HR, but also union and representational organisation of the staff with management. "Working relations", "workplace relations" might be a better bet.
Philippa Smith May 4, 2017:
I also agree with polyglot, and you definitely do not need to include the term "social" in the English (think of how "plan social" can mean "redundancy plan" for instance).
Lara Barnett (asker) May 4, 2017:
Polyglot & other suggestions I may go with this. I have a few minutes left before sending off this batch of texts, and am depending (in this real time happening right now) on postings, agrees, disagrees whatever....
katsy May 4, 2017:
agree with polyglot 'social' here is in this meaning: Climat social. État des rapports entre les salariés, leurs syndicats et les employeurs. http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/social (entry II B 3 a). I will agree with the suggestion "staff-employee relations" if Polyglot wishes to post it as an answer.
Wendy Streitparth May 4, 2017:
Perhaps "working climate"?
It is the duty of both the union representative and the employer to encourage a good and peaceful working climate within the company.
https://www.ja.dk/Filer der kan genbruges/The Collective Agr...
Lara Barnett (asker) May 4, 2017:
@ Wendy And you think using the word "social" in some form would be inappropriate for the English?
Wendy Streitparth May 4, 2017:
Maybe something along the lines of:" how the trade union is affecting the climate within the company".
Lara Barnett (asker) May 4, 2017:
@ Polyglot Are you posting this as a final answer? I was wondering whether to use words like "social" etc, but you think this is all I need?
Was also thinking of
"concerning the issue of the trade union’s role within the company’s current sense of group cohesion. "
polyglot45 May 4, 2017:
staff-employee relations within the company.

Obviously the atmosphere can't be great if they plan on laying staff off!

Proposed translations

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Industrial relations / Industrial climate

Seems to fit better with the flow of the sentence and the context
Example sentence:

...on the theme regarding the role of the union in industrial relations.

Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : more company or corporate /seems this is an option provided on Linguee..http://www.linguee.fr/francais-anglais/search?source=auto&qu...
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agree Nikki Scott-Despaigne : "industrial relations" would be my choice
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agree philgoddard : Or labour relations. We've actually had almost the same question before: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/french_to_english/transport_transp...
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Labour relations would work too.
agree Yolanda Broad
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agree Tony M
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internal social environment

I don't really like "atmosphere", but the term apparently exists...
http://wikibin.org/articles/social-atmosphere.html
Example sentence:

Companies are also expanding their responsibilities for the internal social environment provided for their employees.

We can refer to this as its internal social environment, which is simply the customs, beliefs, practices, and behaviors within the confines of the business.

Peer comment(s):

neutral katsy : social is here in a more restricted meaning. see my remark in DB
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neutral writeaway : social is a faux ami here
47 mins
neutral AllegroTrans : social is a false friend
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neutral Tony M : As has already been said, this is a false friend here: makes it sound like they're talking about how many parties they hold!
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the working atmosphere in the company

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Peer comment(s):

neutral Nikki Scott-Despaigne : I think I ee what you are getting at, but "working atmosphere" is a little short of "climat social". "Workplace relations"?
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Meaning of "climat social"

https://www.people-base-cbm.com/fr/p-le-climat-social.html

QU'EST CE QUE LE CLIMAT SOCIAL ?Il n'existe pas de définition précise pour le terme, l'expression "climat social". Nous avons toutefois tenté d'élaborer notre propre définition :" LE CLIMAT SOCIAL DÉSIGNE L'EXPRESSION (FORMELLE OU NON) DE LA PERCEPTION QU'ONT LES COLLABORATEURS, DES CONDITIONS SOCIALES QUI RÈGNENT AU SEIN D'UNE ENTREPRISE À UN MOMENT DONNÉ. "Les "conditions sociales" sont définies au sens large par l'ensemble des éléments factuels et quantifiables qui ont une influence sur le comportement des collaborateurs. On peut évoquer quelques uns de ces éléments factuels et quantifiables : les conditions de travail (agencement des bureaux, lumière, couleur, espace, bruits, ...), la rémunération, le management, les perspectives d'évolutions, le système de récompenses, les échanges et la communication entre les collaborateurs, les projets de l'entreprise, la situation financière de celle-ci, mais aussi les conditions juridiques et sociales ou l'état de la concurrence.La notion "d'expression (formelle ou non) par les collaborateurs" désigne quant à elle, la manière dont ils expriment leur ressentis (leurs perceptions) par rapport à ces éléments factuels. Il est important de préciser là aussi que chaque collaborateur aura pour chaque élément factuel un ressenti qui lui est propre et qui d'autre part, pourra évoluer au fil du temps...Toutefois, il est assez aisé de mesurer les tendances globales (ou par catégories) des "ressentis" des collaborateurs, pourvu que leur nombre soit assez élevé. L'analyse et la mesure de ces tendances permet de définir ce que l'on appelle le climat social qui règne au sein d'une organisation."

It is not just about working atmosphere, but also includes working conditions. The scope of the term is quite wide.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-05-04 13:29:35 GMT)
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Note the dsicussion here on "climat social" and "lien social".
http://www.maxicours.com/se/fiche/9/8/464089.html/tstt

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Note added at 3 hrs (2017-05-04 13:30:22 GMT)
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Sorry, climat social/dialogue social.

Objectif
Le climat social est le degré de satisfaction des salariés au sein d’une organisation. L’organisation rassemble des individus et des groupes, aux intérêts parfois divergents, qui doivent trouver ensemble des équilibres permettant d’atteindre une performance globale. Le dialogue avec les partenaires, en améliorant le climat social, tente de fortifier la cohésion. Quel est le lien entre climat social et dialogue social ? En quoi le bilan social est-il un indicateur du climat social d’une organisation ?
1. Le dialogue social
a. Les acteurs du dialogue social
Pour déterminer les acteurs du dialogue social, il faut distinguer le dialogue formel et le dialogue informel. Le dialogue social formel est le dialogue entre acteurs prévu par la loi. C'est une relation tripartite : les employeurs et leurs représentants, l’État et les représentants des salariés (délégué du personnel, délégué syndical, comité d’entreprise, et le comité d’hygiène, de sécurité et des conditions de travail – CHSCT).

Le dialogue social ne peut se limiter aux seules négociations prévues par la loi. Le dialogue social informel est une relation bipartite. Ce dialogue est présent au quotidien dans les relations entre collègues et avec la hiérarchie.
b. Les formes et contenus du dialogue social
Le dialogue social revêt diverses formes :
- la simple information des décisions de la direction ;
- la consultation, où chaque acteur du dialogue social indique son point de vue ;
- la concertation, qui est un processus interactif d’échanges prenant en compte les positions de chacun ;
- la négociation, où chaque partie prenante défend ses intérêts et où l’accord social s’obtient par un compromis.

Pour le dialogue social formel, la loi prévoit une négociation annuelle obligatoire sur les contenus suivants : les salaires, l’égalité
Le climat social 4/5 basé sur 13 votes.
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https://www.editions-tissot.fr/droit-travail/content.aspx?id...

Un bon climat social est source de productivité au sein d'une entreprise. Un gestionnaire doit être capable de détecter les tensions au sein de la communauté des salariés afin de pouvoir apporter une réponse d'apaisement. Le rôle joué par les représentants du personnel est primordial car ils constituent en quelque sorte le baromètre du climat de l'entreprise. Vous devez donc entretenir de bonnes relations avec ces derniers et savoir quelles sont les techniques pour désamorcer un conflit, voire une grève.


http://www.whatishumanresource.com/industrial-relations

Definitions:

The term ‘industrial relations’ has been variously defined. J.T. Dunlop defines industrial relations as “the complex interrelations among managers, workers and agencies of the governments”.

According to Dale Yoder “industrial relations is the process of management dealing with one or more unions with a view to negotiate and subsequently administer collective bargaining agreement or labour contract”.

The HR Employee Relations Manager directs the organization's employee relations function. They develop employee relations policies and ensure consistent application of company policies and procedures. In addition, they are responsible for employee dispute resolution procedures, performing internal audits, and taking appropriate action to correct any employee relations issues.


The School of Industrial and Labor Relations at Cornell University was the world's first school for college-level study in HR located in Ithaca, New York, USA. ILR (Industrial and Labor Relations) specializes in the fields of human resource management, labor relations, and dispute resolution.
The Center for Human Resources at the University of Pennsylvania was founded in 1921. The Center's mission is to foster research on the strategic role of HR management in such areas as employment, labor relations, public policy, diversity, and training and education. The Center supports its mission through research, regular meetings, information bulletins, and conferences and public forums.


https://www.mcgill.ca/indr/industrial-relations

ndustrial Relations is an interdisciplinary program, enabling students in the Faculty of Arts to study Labour-Management Relations. Students take courses in Economics, Labour-Management Relations, and Sociology. These courses examine the economic and social forces affecting employer-employee relations.

Graduates from this program gain automatic access to the Order de Conseiller en Réssources Agrées (CRHA), a professional order that certifies human resource professionals in the province of Quebec. Proficiency in French is required for certification.

Graduates may find work in Industrial Relations, Human Resources, or Personnel Management. Some pursue graduate studies in Industrial Relations or Labour-Management Relations. Some go to Law school or Business school. Many find work outside the area of Labour-Management Relations in private industry or government.

Also known as a field of study. "Labour relations" and "labour-management relations" also.


http://www.industrialrelations.nsw.gov.au/

Or "workplace relations"?
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree ormiston : is 'corporate culture' going too far? Corporate Culture - Encyclopedia - Business Terms | Inc.com https://www​.inc.com/.../corporate-culture. ... "Corporate culture refers to the shared values, attitudes, standards, and beliefs that characterize an orgniz
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