to see that human beings don’t fight

English translation: stop people fighting

17:35 Apr 24, 2024
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English term or phrase: to see that human beings don’t fight
The sentence:

I worked with my thesis adviser, developmental
psychologist Elliot Turiel, to offer children
hypothetical scenarios and ask questions. If a team
captain has to fetch a runaway ball for their team to
stay in a tournament, should they do it even if it means
ignoring the fact that a little kid is being bullied
nearby? Younger children focused on getting the ball, but nine- or 10-year-olds were more willing to violate
a convention—the obligation to take care of the team
by retrieving the ball—to help the bullied child. As one
student said, “Someone could get hurt, and even
though you don’t win anything, it’s still good to see
that human beings don’t fight.”

The wider context is the same as in a previous question of mine (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/7182179?pwd=1MkA), namely, an article published in Scientific American on how to promote the moral development of children (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-re...

My question is: considering also the fact that the speaker is a 9- or 10-years-old child, how do you read the verb "to see" in the last sentence? As plain "observe" (perception: as in "I see a pretty flower") or as "assure" (action: as in "Please see that you're all here on time tomorrow")?

To me it's the second, but I'd like to have some native speakers' opinion (but everybody is welcome, of course).
Alfredo Tutino
Local time: 20:51
Selected answer:stop people fighting
Explanation:
I don't think it can mean 'observe', because humans do fight.
Selected response from:

philgoddard
United States
Grading comment
Thank you for editing my question and for your answer. Thanks, also, to all those who contributed with an answer, an agree or a discussion entry.
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



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4 +7stop people fighting
philgoddard
4 +2see to it that human beings don't fight
Jennifer Levey


Discussion entries: 3





  

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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +7
stop people fighting


Explanation:
I don't think it can mean 'observe', because humans do fight.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 123
Grading comment
Thank you for editing my question and for your answer. Thanks, also, to all those who contributed with an answer, an agree or a discussion entry.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Diogo Garcia: "To see that (something doesn't happen)" sounds like a rather common way of expressing this. A child that age could easily hear their elders using that expression and use it as well.
9 mins
  -> Yes, it sounds slightly odd, but then kids often do. Thanks.

agree  Darius Saczuk
19 mins

agree  Chantale Flentge
26 mins

agree  AllegroTrans
3 hrs

agree  MollyRose: stop people from fighting
3 hrs

agree  Anastasia Kalantzi
18 hrs

agree  Mark Nathan
22 hrs
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
see to it that human beings don't fight


Explanation:
'see' in the ST is a 'conversational shortcut' for the verbal phrase "see to it that", which means "to make sure that something is done"

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/see to it#:~:text...

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis...


Jennifer Levey
Chile
Local time: 14:51
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 27

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  writeaway
4 hrs

agree  Anton Konashenok
5 hrs
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