Glossary entry

Romanian term or phrase:

sa presupunem prin absurd

English translation:

let's suppose/imagine against all reason

Added to glossary by Elena Perianu
Nov 23, 2007 12:35
16 yrs ago
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Romanian term

sa presupunem prin absurd

Romanian to English Science Mathematics & Statistics
Nu este un exercitiu de matematica, este folosit ca expresie. Merci
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Oct 12, 2010 19:25: Elena Perianu Created KOG entry

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Mihaela Ghiuzeli Nov 23, 2007:
Cum se continua textul tau, Simina ? Am o idee dar depinde de context.

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let's suppose/imagine against all reason

prin absurd - against all reason
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agree Crisoi : ah! acum am vazut traducerea ta (dupa ce am postat raspunsul) si mi se pare mai buna.
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Multumesc mult, Cristina. Apreciez mesajul si "ma umflu in pene"
agree Tatiana Neamţu : Cu "imagine" sună mai bine :)
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multumesc, Tatiana
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Merci"
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let's carry [this idea] to an absurd extreme

Alternativ, se poate spune si reductio ad absurdum. Desi in romana fraza e folosita aproape exclusiv in domenii "tehnice" (matematica, logica, filosofie), aici se foloseste in mod curent ca atare, in politica sau in viata de zi cu zi. Dar daca nu merge in context, se poate si cum am spus mai sus.
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suppose we make the absurd assumption

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agree anamaria bulgariu
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Multumesc, anamaria
agree Bogdan Burghelea
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Multumesc, Bogdan
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(let's/let us) suppose by absurd (that)

Vezi o explicaţie aici:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
Nu este un exerciţiu, aşa cum zici, dar expresia se foloseşte la rezolvarea problemelor de matematică, eu aşa înţeleg.
Pentru expresia dacă dai o căutare pe google, cred că te edifici.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-11-23 17:12:13 GMT)
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Am găsit şi ”assume by absurd”, un simplu sinonim, dealtfel...
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Reason aside, let's assume that...

fara un context mai larg, este o pura speculatie.

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Note added at 1 day5 hrs (2007-11-24 18:16:06 GMT)
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Parerea mea este ca e o idioma romaneasca si as adapta-o un pic de genul " if taken (whatever this is) to an extreme/if we take it to an extreme...". In engleza, se spune frecvent"let's say/let's assume"fara nota asta extrema/absurda.

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Note added at 1 day13 hrs (2007-11-25 02:17:26 GMT)
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Ca sa fiu sincera , nici "let's assume against all reason" nu l-am auzit ca atare desi e o traducere fidela dar nu neaparat "idiomatica'. Mai degraba, "this defies reason"(absurd) si nu ar reda contextul oricum. Contextul nefiind matematic/stiintific, nu se preteaza la expresii latine (Reductio..)
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reductio ad absurdum

Le raisonnement par l'absurde in franceza
in engleza e ca-n latina
Reductio ad absurdum (Latin: "reduction to the absurd") also known as an apagogical argument, reductio ad impossibile, or proof by contradiction, is a type of logical argument where one assumes a claim for the sake of argument, derives an absurd or ridiculous outcome, and then concludes that the original assumption must have been wrong as it led to an absurd result.

It makes use of the law of non-contradiction — a statement cannot be both true and false. In some cases it may also make use of the law of excluded middle — a statement must be either true or false. The phrase is traceable back to the Greek ἡ εἰς ἄτοπον ἀπαγωγή (hē eis átopon apagōgḗ), meaning "reduction to the absurd", often used by Aristotle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

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iar intr-o fraza using the "reductio ad absurdum " method

sau

"using an apagogical argument"
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