Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Sep 17, 2002 04:11
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Russian term
камлания
Russian to English
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Anthropology
anthropology
шаманские камлания
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +3 | Shamanic seance |
Jarema
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| 4 +2 | rituals |
Zoya ayoz (X)
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| 5 +1 | kamlania |
Dash
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| 5 +1 | Invocations, Mantra, Powwow, Sorcery |
Vera Fluhr (X)
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| 3 +1 | shamanistic ceremonials, rituals, practices |
Irene N
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| 4 | shaman's chantings and rituals |
Nala
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| 4 | shamanise |
tunturi
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| 2 | shaman's magic dance |
marfus
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Proposed translations
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Shamanic seance
The most complicated and efficient form of healing practice by Siberian shamans included kamlaniye, a shamanic seance that usually continued for several days.
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Note added at 2002-09-17 05:49:09 (GMT)
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http://www.kondor.de/shaman/healing.html
A good deal of such ecstasy--reminiscent of a shamanic seance with its rhythmic kinesis, music, words, and audience participation--carried over into jazz.
http://mathforum.org/~chris/me/writer/prose/mcomm/Religion.h...
It is an exactly description of Kamlaniye
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Note added at 2002-09-17 05:49:09 (GMT)
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http://www.kondor.de/shaman/healing.html
A good deal of such ecstasy--reminiscent of a shamanic seance with its rhythmic kinesis, music, words, and audience participation--carried over into jazz.
http://mathforum.org/~chris/me/writer/prose/mcomm/Religion.h...
It is an exactly description of Kamlaniye
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+2
44 mins
rituals
shamanistic rituals
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Irene N
: Прошу прощения, задержала страницу открытой, не списывала...
7 mins
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| agree |
Tatiana Neroni (X)
10 hrs
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50 mins
shamanistic ceremonials, rituals, practices
Ссылки на русский термин с тоннами объяснений на Гугле открываются десятками. С аналогами на английском плохо. Часто подчеркивается ecstatic nature, но прилагательное shamanistic на это как бы намекает по определению. Или надо расписывать.
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marfus
: rituals, yes; practices, no: they may include many non-extatic activities (curative, gathering herbs, &c) that have nothing to do with камлания
1 hr
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1 hr
shaman's magic dance
is how i'd render the most immediate meaning of the term
1 hr
shaman's chantings and rituals
as an option
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http://www.kondor.de/shaman/journey.html
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Note added at 2002-09-17 06:07:00 (GMT)
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http://www.kondor.de/shaman/journey.html
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3 hrs
kamlania
...shamans of the northern tribes used rhythmic magic words (so-called "kamlania") that were followed by specific rhythmic drumming...
http://www.doctorbw.com/home/method-part3.htm
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... Stepanida singt \"ugadan kurduk\" als eine Schamanin - die Schamanin wird in Kamlania
fьr mдchtiger gehalten als der Schamane - und es ist schwer zu beweisen ...
www.oso.at/root/pages/de/contentde/ kunstler/stepanidaborisova.html
So in Kamlania female
shamans are considered more powerful than male shamans ))))
http://www.doctorbw.com/home/method-part3.htm
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Note added at 2002-09-17 08:06:32 (GMT)
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... Stepanida singt \"ugadan kurduk\" als eine Schamanin - die Schamanin wird in Kamlania
fьr mдchtiger gehalten als der Schamane - und es ist schwer zu beweisen ...
www.oso.at/root/pages/de/contentde/ kunstler/stepanidaborisova.html
So in Kamlania female
shamans are considered more powerful than male shamans ))))
Peer comment(s):
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Vera Fluhr (X)
28 mins
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+1
4 hrs
Invocations, Mantra, Powwow, Sorcery
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Peer comment(s):
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Sergei Rioumin
: Powwow is the term. I happened to translate a book about ritual cults.
28 mins
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Thank you, Sergei !
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Jarema
: You can say POWWOW about the NA-Indians, but not about asian nations. Shamanic seance has a more exactly meaning.
2 hrs
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Это слово применяется и в переносном значениии, например, для встреч участников ProZ - powwow meetings
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7 hrs
shamanise
КАМЛАТЬ сиб. шаманить, гадать, ворожить и лечить, по образу или способу шаманов;от кам м. шаман.
http://dic.academic.ru/misc/enc2p.nsf/ByID/NT0003DC5A
... However - those who do act or perform ceremonies while in trance
can be said to 'shamanise' . To learn to shamanise is possible ...
www.sacredhoop.demon.co.uk/AMAIN-PAGES/SHAMANISM.html
http://dic.academic.ru/misc/enc2p.nsf/ByID/NT0003DC5A
... However - those who do act or perform ceremonies while in trance
can be said to 'shamanise' . To learn to shamanise is possible ...
www.sacredhoop.demon.co.uk/AMAIN-PAGES/SHAMANISM.html
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