May 5, 2006 09:18
18 yrs ago
Russian term
Переселенческий пункт
Russian to English
Social Sciences
Archaeology
Taken from an archaological text looking at Paleolithic findings in the former USSR region. The full paragraph containing the phrase in question is as follows:
В Сибири С. М. Сергеевым в 1911 г. была обнаружена стоянка у Переселенческого пункта в Красноярске, появляются сведения о палеолите Алтая (работы М. Д. Копытова), в 1914 г. И. Т. Савенков проводит свои последние раскопки на Афонтовой Горе.
Migration point? Or does the presence of the captial П mean it should be transliterated?
В Сибири С. М. Сергеевым в 1911 г. была обнаружена стоянка у Переселенческого пункта в Красноярске, появляются сведения о палеолите Алтая (работы М. Д. Копытова), в 1914 г. И. Т. Савенков проводит свои последние раскопки на Афонтовой Горе.
Migration point? Or does the presence of the captial П mean it should be transliterated?
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 | transmigratory settlement |
Jack slep
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| 4 | migratory settlement |
Karen Sughyan
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| 3 +1 | Migrant Center |
Zamira B.
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Proposed translations
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Selected
transmigratory settlement
ПЕРЕСЕЛЕНЧЕСКИЙ ПУНКТ (палеолит)
многослойное поселение в г.Красноярске. Сборы арх.материала брон. и жел.вв. проводились с конца XIX в. Погребения эне-ол. раскопано В.Передольским (1894), жел. в С.М.Сергеевым (1919?). К.с. па-леол.открыт и исследован С.М.Сергеевым (1912), Г.П.Сосновским (1923, 1925, 1927). Найдены изделия из камня, бронзы, железа, керамики, кости животных.
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Note added at 2 days8 hrs (2006-05-07 18:14:09 GMT)
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Should have given it to you originally, sorry!
Археология - Словарь
... НИЖНИЙ ИДЖИР 1, ПЕРЕСЕЛЕНЧЕСКИЙ ПУНКТ (палеолит), ПЕРЕВОЗИНСКАЯ (палеолит) ... Переселенческий пункт, Ладейки, Большая Слизнева, Сизая VIII и др.).
archaeology.krasn.ru/cgi-arc/CrPgDict.exe?first%201
Note from asker:
| Thank you Jack. What was the source for that? |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Jack. This was a tough one and I'm still not sure what to do with it, but I had to move on and so chose transmigratory settlement"
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Karen Sughyan
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migratory settlement
settlement -поселение
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Aleksandr Okunev (X)
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Thank you
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Alexander Demyanov
: Karen, переселенческий пункт is not any sort of settlement/поселение, it's more like camp/barracks, run by authorities
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+1
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Migrant Center
I guess the MC has to do with the reform by Stolypin which among other things was to send migrants from central Russia to develop Siberia and this is how the MC came in life. I do not think it can be transliterated as there should have been many more MC-s. And nor i am sure it was a settlement, but rather a point from where migrants were directed further on.
Peer comment(s):
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Alexander Demyanov
: a search for '"migrant center" siberia' seems to support your suggestion
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thank you
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Discussion
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The industry from Pereselencheskii Punkt (Sosnovksy, 1935b) is similar to ... Layer C of Biriusa, Pereselencheskii Punkt, Aeshka, and other sites were ...
I have found a place called Pereselencheskiy in Chelyabinskaya oblast' but that's not what I'm after.
Anyway, I'll keep at it and hope that the French translator found something!
Seems not all the source was included at first.
... НИЖНИЙ ИДЖИР 1, ПЕРЕСЕЛЕНЧЕСКИЙ ПУНКТ (палеолит), ПЕРЕВОЗИНСКАЯ (палеолит) ... Переселенческий пункт, Ладейки, Б