Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Russian term or phrase:
локальное пространство смысла
English translation:
focused semantic space
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Oleksiy Markunin
Feb 20, 2014 18:04
10 yrs ago
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Russian term
локальное пространство смысла
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I'm proofreading/editing a text about multidimensional thinking. Across the whole text there are a lot of uses of the term -локальное пространство смысла. It was originally translated as - local space of sense.
I've come up with - local environment of meaning. Does it sound OK for native speakers? Any other suggestions?
Examples of use in the source text:
1. Философским основанием многомерного мышления являются обновленные представления о концепте, мысли, смысле, локальном пространстве смыслов.
2. Условно многомерное мышление можно рассматривать как три параллельно осуществляемые практики. Первая практика связана с освоением отдельных локальных пространств смысла.
Thanks!
I've come up with - local environment of meaning. Does it sound OK for native speakers? Any other suggestions?
Examples of use in the source text:
1. Философским основанием многомерного мышления являются обновленные представления о концепте, мысли, смысле, локальном пространстве смыслов.
2. Условно многомерное мышление можно рассматривать как три параллельно осуществляемые практики. Первая практика связана с освоением отдельных локальных пространств смысла.
Thanks!
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Michael Korovkin
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a focus/foci of semantic space / a definite semantic field
... a place where "things" signify (that is, have meanig) is not a space of where meanings float like fish, but a culturally imbued (always, for without values there is no meaning) area where meanings are generated – a semantic space/field.
Let's say, a semantic field of a term screw is a space where the term's meaning generated by the cultural context/linguistic usage, drifts from screwing something in, to screwing somebody, to screwing somebody over, to screwing somebody up, etc... It is a focused semantic space, not a localised space of meanings.
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sure... I deal with anthropology of symbolic expression (c.f. http://intelros.ru/pdf/eps/2012_29/16.pdf), and so it's my lingo. But in philosophy of knowledge they may have different usages. That's the trouble with social science: it has never developed a unified and mutually accepted terminology.
Let's say, a semantic field of a term screw is a space where the term's meaning generated by the cultural context/linguistic usage, drifts from screwing something in, to screwing somebody, to screwing somebody over, to screwing somebody up, etc... It is a focused semantic space, not a localised space of meanings.
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sure... I deal with anthropology of symbolic expression (c.f. http://intelros.ru/pdf/eps/2012_29/16.pdf), and so it's my lingo. But in philosophy of knowledge they may have different usages. That's the trouble with social science: it has never developed a unified and mutually accepted terminology.
Note from asker:
| Michael, your answer is pretty persuasive. As always. I'll discuss this variant with the client. Thanks! |
Peer comment(s):
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Roman Bouchev
: Почему-то сразу не пришел мне в голову этот вариант. Думаю, что он наиболее подходящий.
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thanks, you're a pro! :)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Michael, thanks once again. Used this variant."
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Roman Bouchev
Russian Federation
Russian Federation
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Russian Federation
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space of meaning
В одной книге по трансцендентальной феноменологии встретилось такое сочетание, как "specific space of meaning". Например, здесь: ... each individual object is tied into a functional
context, it stands in and for a specific space of meaning (http://academic.mu.edu/phil/lufts/documents/Luft-Neokantian_...
The philosophical principles of multi-dimenstional thinking are a person's updated perceptions of concept, idea, meaning and a space of meanings within the context (варианты: defined by the context/context-dependent space of meanings/context-driven space of meanings). Как вариант: The philosophy behind multi-dimenstional thinking is derived from ...
Во втором случае я бы попробовал перевести так:
The first procedure involves (или чуть посложнее: identifying approaches to treat ...) approaching individual spaces of meaning arising from the situation/defined by the context.
context, it stands in and for a specific space of meaning (http://academic.mu.edu/phil/lufts/documents/Luft-Neokantian_...
The philosophical principles of multi-dimenstional thinking are a person's updated perceptions of concept, idea, meaning and a space of meanings within the context (варианты: defined by the context/context-dependent space of meanings/context-driven space of meanings). Как вариант: The philosophy behind multi-dimenstional thinking is derived from ...
Во втором случае я бы попробовал перевести так:
The first procedure involves (или чуть посложнее: identifying approaches to treat ...) approaching individual spaces of meaning arising from the situation/defined by the context.
Peer comment(s):
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Yakov Tomara
: не видел Вашего ответа, когда открыл вопрос и начал искать ссылки (потом немного отвлекся :) )
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Thanks, Yakov!
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cyhul
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Thanks a lot!
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Yakov Tomara
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local space of meanings
выражение space of meanings достаточно популярно в англоязычных ресурсах, пример из Кебмриджа.
Выражение local space of meaning(s), малоупотребительно, но, как представляется, вполне понятно
Выражение local space of meaning(s), малоупотребительно, но, как представляется, вполне понятно
Example sentence:
Another assumption is that the space of meanings is smaller than the space of words (there are many ways to express the same meaning). LSA identi
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Natalia Volkova
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спасибо
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Roman Bouchev
: В текстах по антропологии и культурологии я встречал и такое сочетание, как localized set/system of meanings. И хотя речь о философии, этот вариант мне кажется тоже возможным.
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LilianNekipelov
: I think so.
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Protradit1
United States
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scope of local(ized) vernacular
'Vernacular' is a 'manner of speech' or a 'way of expressing an idea or describing a phenomenon' which is typical for a specific region or group of people. By extension, the 'local sphere of thought' or 'approach toward expressing an idea/thing' could conceivably be expressed as a 'scope of local(ized) vernacular'
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LilianNekipelov
: Not in this context.
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atmosphere
: the word "vernacular" is often associated with "жаргон", typically linguistic term
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LilianNekipelov
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local paradigm of meaning
I would use this.
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the field of circular reasoning
"Пространство смыслов" isn't the same as "смысла" and looking into the difference simply breaks the odds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reasoning
Discussion
I was a bit skeptical about 'space' in the beginning, but your explanation seems to lend a lot of credibility to this variant. Just to be clear, had I for a moment thought "dimension' was the right fit, I would have posted it as an answer in the first place, as opposed to comments or references. It was not my intention to mislead anyone, sorry. Given a limited context, the target term could be subject to numerous interpretations.
'Domain' is used more often in linguistic/semantic/psychological texts than the word 'environment' when analyzing meanings/concepts/behaviors. Take a look at this:
http://mindmodeling.org/cogsci2011/papers/0500/index.html
and
http://books.google.nl/books/about/Epistemic_Meaning.html?id...
From personal experience I can tell you it is going to be fairly incomprehensible no matter what you do since philosophy is one of those areas where Russian and English-speaking authors operate with totally different, oft-unreconcilable categories and terms. So relax, pick up something that sounds good enough in English (your version does) to have you behind covered and sail smoothly along. Something is telling me this is not going to be widely read anyway, so it doesn't really matter.