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Thread poster: Mihaela C N Plamadeala
Mihaela C N Plamadeala
Mihaela C N Plamadeala  Identity Verified
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Dec 6, 2022

Hi all,

I have been a non-member of ProZ for quite some time, and whilst I find some parts useful I have found it very inefficient if you cannot afford to pay the membership. What I mean by that is that non-members are not allowed to see jobs they bid for, who won the job, and when that job was awarded. Furthermore, jobs are not closed so they keep showing up and you can't remember if you bid for it or not unless you make a note of it somewhere else! It's quite irritating to not ha
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Hi all,

I have been a non-member of ProZ for quite some time, and whilst I find some parts useful I have found it very inefficient if you cannot afford to pay the membership. What I mean by that is that non-members are not allowed to see jobs they bid for, who won the job, and when that job was awarded. Furthermore, jobs are not closed so they keep showing up and you can't remember if you bid for it or not unless you make a note of it somewhere else! It's quite irritating to not have an overall summary of what you've done, and it feels unfair to be only available for those who pay! ProZ team, maybe you could look at this issue again. Is there anyone else out there who agrees with me?
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Samuel Murray
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Netherlands
Local time: 10:47
Member (2006)
English to Afrikaans
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@Mihaela Dec 6, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:
Non-members are not allowed to see jobs they bid for, who won the job, and when that job was awarded.

Paying members can't see this information either (well, except that some jobs are reserved for paying members and some jobs only become available to non-paying members after a few hours). We can't see who won the job or when/whether a job was awarded.

Furthermore, jobs are not closed so they keep showing up and you can't remember if you bid for it or not unless you make a note of it somewhere else! It's quite irritating to not have an overall summary of what you've done, and it feels unfair to be only available for those who pay!

Don't you have access to this page?
https://www.proz.com/translation-jobs/quotes/


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Tom in London
Tom in London
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:47
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Italian to English
Don't worry about it Dec 6, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:

Hi all,

I have been a non-member of ProZ for quite some time, and whilst I find some parts useful I have found it very inefficient if you cannot afford to pay the membership. What I mean by that is that non-members are not allowed to see jobs they bid for, who won the job, and when that job was awarded. Furthermore, jobs are not closed so they keep showing up and you can't remember if you bid for it or not unless you make a note of it somewhere else! It's quite irritating to not have an overall summary of what you've done, and it feels unfair to be only available for those who pay! ProZ team, maybe you could look at this issue again. Is there anyone else out there who agrees with me?



I have been a paying member for many, many years. None of my bids has ever been successful. Bidding for jobs should be the last reason why you would want to become a paying member of Proz! In my experience, the best way of getting Proz to work for you is to make sure you have an excellent profile that is periodically updated; this requires paid membership.

[Edited at 2022-12-06 15:05 GMT]


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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Portugal
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@Mihaela Dec 6, 2022

I have been a paying member since 2007, so I don’t know if what I’m about to say applies to you: to follow my quotes, I just go to Jobs & Directories, then to More and My Quotes. There I find a summary of the quotes I submitted. Some of my bids have been successful, though much less than I would like to...

 
Sadek_A
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?! Dec 7, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:
to see jobs

What jobs?

We went from "quote your most competitive rate" straight into "it's a great pro bono OPPORTUNITY"!


 
Mihaela C N Plamadeala
Mihaela C N Plamadeala  Identity Verified
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Thanks Dec 11, 2022

Thank you all for responding. I think the site needs a revamp to make it work for all - members or non-members.

 
Samuel Murray
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Netherlands
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English to Afrikaans
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@Mihaela Dec 11, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:
I think the site needs a revamp to make it work for all - members or non-members.

Paying members get access to additional features that non-paying members don't have access to. Can you, as a non-paying member, see your quotes on the page that Maria and I mentioned?


 
Matthias Brombach
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Germany
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Dutch to German
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Why? Dec 11, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:

Thank you all for responding. I think the site needs a revamp to make it work for all - members or non-members.


Why should I pay for a private job board when others, who don't pay for it, possibly gain jobs they compete with me? Aren't there other (and free) possibilities besides proz? What about relevant translators associations, who list their members for end clients: Would their members allow non-members access to the list members pay for by their fees? If so, then I want to be listed there too, thanks. BDÜ, please go ahead.


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
IrinaN
IrinaN
United States
Local time: 03:47
English to Russian
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Why? Dec 11, 2022

Except for the SSI (Supplemental Security income) offices, and The Salvation Army, I don't know many places where you can get the same goods and services as the paying patrons (aka taxpayers) get, for free.

Christel Zipfel
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jyuan_us
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United States
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English to Chinese
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Then, Dec 12, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:

Thank you all for responding. I think the site needs a revamp to make it work for all - members or non-members.


Why would people want to pay to become members?


Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
 
Denis Fesik
Denis Fesik
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Toad Dec 12, 2022

We have a saying that whenever you want to buy something you can afford but can't make up your mind to go ahead and spend the money, it's because a toad is strangling you. My paid ProZ membership is indeed a toad case. I spoke to a person who said paid membership was worth it in the past and that he'd found quite a few permanent customers here, but this forum is making me feel it's not the right time for me to quit my permanent job to go full freelance with ProZ. As you grow older, you begin to... See more
We have a saying that whenever you want to buy something you can afford but can't make up your mind to go ahead and spend the money, it's because a toad is strangling you. My paid ProZ membership is indeed a toad case. I spoke to a person who said paid membership was worth it in the past and that he'd found quite a few permanent customers here, but this forum is making me feel it's not the right time for me to quit my permanent job to go full freelance with ProZ. As you grow older, you begin to realize the toad is your friend

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Sadek_A
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... Dec 12, 2022

Mihaela C N Plamadeala wrote:
I think the site needs a revamp

I believe that would be:

1. Reducing number of suppliers, by limiting enrollment to people with completed, documented language degrees!

2. Site charging a cut from a project well-secured and -paid by the site, instead of collecting a subscription and telling the supplier to chase their own projects themselves!


 


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