Feb 18, 2011 16:17
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German term

Fünffingerfrauenmantel

German to English Science Botany Wildflowers
It occurs once in a text about the Alps
Fünffingerfrauenmantel, Alpenmargerite und Enzian blühen direkt neben der Straße.
I know nothing about plants, and it's not in any of my resources.
Thanks, Kevin

Discussion

Lynda Hepburn Feb 18, 2011:
Agree with Phil - the context with "gentian" without any specific name suggests just a casual reference to what is flowering by the wayside.
philgoddard Feb 18, 2011:
I don't think it's a typo. It's almost certainly Alchemilla alpina, Alpine lady's mantle, but because the German word gets only one Google hit, I think it may be a mistake by someone who doesn't know much about botany. For this reason, I don't think there's much point putting it in the glossary. The German for Alpine lady's mantle is Alpen-Frauenmantel.
SJLD Feb 18, 2011:
typo, missing comma? It is quite possible that these are two plants - Frauenmantel is definitely alchemilla, but Fünffinger could be Fünffinger-Strauch which is potentilla, another alpine plant.

Proposed translations

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Cinquefoil lady's mantle

I believe that cinquefoil is used for "fünffinger" in botany
Peer comment(s):

neutral Ramey Rieger (X) : It is - but for Lady's Mantle?
1 min
agree philgoddard : This must be it, as it's called Alchemilla alpina. All the Google hits seem to be from the 19th and early 20th centuries, so its name may have changed.//It's now called Alpine lady's mantle.
6 mins
agree Kim Metzger : http://tinyurl.com/4zrbtfg
14 mins
agree SJLD : looks good - but a bit esoteric for the context http://www.nzzfolio.ch/www/d80bd71b-b264-4db4-afd0-277884b93...
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agree adamgajlewicz
1 hr
agree Cetacea : Nowadays called Alpine Lady's Mantle.
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Lady's mantle

Not sure about the Fünffinger, though.

Frauenmantel (Alchemilla) ist eine Pflanzengattung der Familie der Rosengewächse (Rosaceae), die in Europa, Asien und Afrika verbreitet ist und vorwiegend in den Gebirgen wächst.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenmantel

Alchemilla is a genus of herbaceous perennial plants in the Rosaceae, and a popular garden herb with the common name Lady's mantle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemilla
Peer comment(s):

agree Ramey Rieger (X) : I think the 5-fingers is an error, there is, as far as I know (and in this case I know quite a bit), there's a FF Fern (Cinquefoil) which refers to the foliage. You were first.
6 mins
agree Tanja K : "five-leavelettet lady's mantle" according to The gardeners dictionary by Philip Miller, page 339 -- http://tinyurl.com/6h97ylr
10 mins
agree SJLD : for the purposes of the article, I think this suffices
50 mins
agree Cilian O'Tuama : other common names seem to include lion's foot and bear's foot
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11 mins

Lady's Mantle

http://www.herbies-herbs.com/pages/herbuses-3.html#labrador

Five finger ferns, yes - five finger Lady's Mantle - never heard of it!
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1 hr

Alpine lady's mantle

If this hasn't already been stated somewhere in the discussion.

Whereas Lady's mantle has lobed leaves, Alpine lady's mantle has deeply divided leaves - hence the "funffinger": "Leaves divided to the base into 5-7 narrow lobes" (The Wild Flowers of Britain and Northern Europe by Fitter Fitter and Blamey)
Peer comment(s):

neutral philgoddard : It has already been stated somewhere in the discussion.
16 mins
agree Cetacea
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38 mins

Cut Leaved Lady's Mantle

*Fünffingerfrauenmantel" is not correct.
Schnee-Frauenmantel (Alchemilla pentaphyllea) or Fünfblättriger Frauenmantel are more commonly used as popular names.


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Note added at 49 Min. (2011-02-18 17:06:33 GMT)
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also written as "cut-leaved lady's mantle"

http://www.udinecultura.it/opencms/opencms/release/ComuneUdi...

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Note added at 1 Stunde (2011-02-18 18:03:57 GMT)
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I'm still shure about the scientific name but have to admit that the English name I found for Alchemilla pentaphyllea apparently has - despite of hundreds of web hits - just one single source on an italian page. Sorry about that.
Peer comment(s):

neutral SJLD : sorry but "cut leaved lady's mantle" is not English
18 mins
kind of Engliano .... thank you!!
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9 hrs

Alchemilla Alpina

listed are varieties of Lady's Mantle
hope this is helpful

http://www.ehow.com/list_7351682_lady_s-mantle-plants.html
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