Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Spanish term or phrase:
ecónoma doméstica
English translation:
housekeeper
Spanish term
Also an Engineer
Native in: Spanish (Variant: Venezuelan)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, Spanish
ecónoma doméstica
Mil gracias por su ayuda
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Charles Davis
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Edward Tully
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Jennifer Levey
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TravellingTrans
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| ¿Expresión de moda en la décadas de 1960? |
MarinaM
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Proposed translations
housekeeper
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TravellingTrans
: my note in reference to your discussion entry shows the same thing, so I'm backing you up on this
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Thanks very much, TravellingTrans :) Yes, I see you did refer to this.
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Because your words matter
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK) 
Works in: Spanish to English
homemaker
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Note added at 8 mins (2014-10-23 20:08:38 GMT)
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https://www.google.es/?gws_rd=ssl#q="homemaker" "not housewi...
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Luis Vasquez
: Yes. I also think that housewife carries a sexist connotation.
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Many thanks Luis! ;-)
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TechLawDC
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Many thanks! ;-)
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philgoddard
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Many thanks Phil! ;-)
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Chile
Human-scale Globalization
Native in: English (Variant: British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
housewife
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Note added at 20 mins (2014-10-23 20:20:49 GMT)
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Just to add that in a birth certificate issued in England and Wales, the usual equivalent - in the column headed 'Occupation or Profession' - would be 'None'. There is a willingness in some countries to pretend that being a housewife is equivalent to having a profession. Some social groups might feel that to be the case, and personally I have no opinion on the matter, but in the laws governing civil registries, and in the rules governing the recording of births, there's a tendency to avoid politically-correct extrapolation.
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Note added at 50 mins (2014-10-23 20:51:14 GMT)
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OT, although relevant in terms of an evolving perception of the role of women in the home: In Chile - until quite recently (AFAIK, around 60 years ago) - birth and marriage registers used the expression "labores del sexo" to label women who lacked any 'occupation' or 'profession'.
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AllegroTrans
: it may be "un-PC" but it is a perfectly valid term, used in everyday speech by more than 90% of the population, especially in the 1960s
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United States
Timely Translation Turnaround
Native in: English (Variant: US)
Works in: Spanish to English, Chinese to English
Family and Consumer Sciences
The field of study is Economía doméstica and a person who works in this field is called an ecónoma doméstica.
I don't see examples of the term really relating to being a homemaker, not that it couldn't be that, but I didn't find them and I do find the term used in university papers and studies and in relation to professions.
So, my take.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2014-10-24 03:00:53 GMT)
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Regarding Charles' discussion post above, the term "ecónoma ó ama de llaves" does appear once, so it could be a variation on housekeeper as well, in any case I'm doubtful of the "homemaker/housewife" theory ;)
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AllegroTrans
: this is an occupation stated in a 1967 birth certificate, not a college subject// so presumably she is a "Family and Consumer Scientist"? i.e. an occupation, not a subject
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women couldn't have careers in 1967? Also if you actually read anything from the links or explanation you'd see that this is a professional field and title for people who work in that field, also if you read the note you'd see it could mean housekeeper
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Reference comments
¿Expresión de moda en la décadas de 1960?
http://resumenes-comunicacion-uba.blogspot.com.ar/2012_06_01...
Discussion
"Haushälterin f. ecónoma, ama de llaves, aya."
http://books.google.es/books?id=oBQ4AQAAIAAJ&pg=PA234&lpg=PA...
I ask this because I find this term very surprising. I have seen a number of older Spanish birth certificates and when the mother is a housewife (or homemaker) it always says "Profesión: sus labores", in my experience.
The expression "ecónoma doméstica" is rare in any context. It's more common in Italian (without accents) than in Spanish.