Feb 8, 2017 16:44
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Spanish term

patrón origen

Spanish to English Bus/Financial Accounting EDI, taxes, payroll
MEXICO. New SAT regulations/payroll complement.
I know that RFC is the taxpayer code (Registro Federal de Contribuyentes)... but both am struggling to find an "official" translation for these 2 components (patrón+ origen):

"Para el Emisor
CURP si el patrón es persona física
Registro patronal, si se cuenta
RFC patrón origen, de quien funge como patrón, si el pago es a través de terceros"
Proposed translations (English)
2 primary employer

Discussion

neilmac (asker) Feb 8, 2017:
@Robert I'm looking for an "official" or at least convincing translation for the couplet. I know "patron" is an employer/boss. I assume it means "the employer who originates the payment", but that's very long-winded....
Robert Carter Feb 8, 2017:
Hey Neil, I don't know what the "origen" refers to specifically here, but "patrón" means "employer", if that's your query.

Proposed translations

8 hrs
Selected

primary employer

I don't know if this is the "official" term, so low confidence level.

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Note added at 21 hrs (2017-02-09 13:49:02 GMT)
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Neil, I'm not a tax specialist, but I have a vague idea that self-employed traders in the construction industry in the UK must invoice in a particular way that differs from most other self-employed traders. In their case, I think the contractor doesn't pay the full invoice, but retains a percentage on behalf of HMRC (which becomes an advance payment on the builder's annual income tax bill - it might be termed "retention at source" or something like that). I wonder if HMRC makes here some distinction between "primary" employers and other employers. It might be worth checking HMRC's web pages for self-employment in the building (or construction) industry.

Thinking further on this, it's just occurred to me that HMRC would perhaps use the term "contractor", not "employer", for the party who engages a self-employed trader.
Note from asker:
Interesting. I'm leaving the query open to see if any more suggestions come in. As it's a list of SAT specifications, I assume there must be an "official" version hiding away somewhere, but I haven't been able to ferret it out yet :)
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