May 9, 2020 15:28
4 yrs ago
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Spanish term
France
Quality, accuracy and flexibility
Native in: English (Variants: UK, British) 
Works in: French to English, Spanish to English
socio comercial
Spanish to English
Bus/Financial
Business/Commerce (general)
Compliance, Code of Conduct
I'm translating a training document related to a company's code of conduct and they use the term "socio comercial" throughout, but I'm struggling to come up with an appropriate translation for it. Here are some examples:
"[El código de Conducta] promueve una conducta ética y responsable y subraya nuestras responsabilidades como socio comercial, como miembro de la sociedad y en el lugar de trabajo."
"En el caso de regalos, únicamente podrás aceptar regalos por un importe económico de hasta 50€ por año y socio comercial."
"Cuando un regalo supere los 50€ o existan dudas acerca de su valor, el regalo deberá ser devuelto al socio comercial."
I initially thought it was referring to a company, but then it stated that only one gift of €50 can be accepted per "socio comercial", which seemed a bit limiting for an entire company. Is it just a catch-all term that could refer to just any business person, executive or even company? Or can it only refer to a person?
Thanks in advance.
"[El código de Conducta] promueve una conducta ética y responsable y subraya nuestras responsabilidades como socio comercial, como miembro de la sociedad y en el lugar de trabajo."
"En el caso de regalos, únicamente podrás aceptar regalos por un importe económico de hasta 50€ por año y socio comercial."
"Cuando un regalo supere los 50€ o existan dudas acerca de su valor, el regalo deberá ser devuelto al socio comercial."
I initially thought it was referring to a company, but then it stated that only one gift of €50 can be accepted per "socio comercial", which seemed a bit limiting for an entire company. Is it just a catch-all term that could refer to just any business person, executive or even company? Or can it only refer to a person?
Thanks in advance.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +11 | Business partner |
Gareth Rhys-Jones López
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| 5 +1 | commercial partner |
Mariela Rollinson
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| 4 +2 | trading partner |
Rebecca Jowers
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| 3 +1 | business associate |
Adrian MM.
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| 4 | business client |
patinba
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Proposed translations
+11
4 mins
Gareth Rhys-Jones López
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
Spain
Translator/Transcreator/Subtitler
Native in: English (Variant: British) , Spanish (Variant: Standard-Spain)
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
Selected
Business partner
Es lo único que se me ocurre porque luego habla de regalos a otras empresas y demás.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Barbara Cochran, MFA
1 min
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| agree |
Robert Carter
: Yes, loosely, as in suppliers, customers, etc., rather than formal partnerships.
8 mins
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| agree |
Eileen Brophy
10 mins
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| agree |
Katarina Peters
11 mins
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| agree |
Paulina Sobelman
28 mins
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| agree |
Michael Grabczan-Grabowski
1 hr
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| agree |
Sonia García
1 hr
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| agree |
David Hollywood
1 hr
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| agree |
Nelly Alejandra Alister
6 hrs
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| agree |
neilmac
: Reminds me of a TEFL book I used when teaching (Lower Intermediate Business English Course)
16 hrs
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| agree |
AllegroTrans
1 day 5 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Perfect, thanks!"
+1
4 mins
Mariela Rollinson
Argentina
Argentina
Native in Spanish
Argentina
High accuracy in legal translations.
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Venezuelan, Bolivian, Argentine, US, Costa Rican, Latin American, Colombian, Uruguayan, Standard-Spain)
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English, Spanish, and 1 more.
commercial partner
it refers to an associate, member or owner of the company.
+2
11 mins
Rebecca Jowers
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
30 yrs experience legal-commercial
Native in: English
Works in: English to Spanish, Spanish to English
Related KudoZ points
:
306
trading partner
(another option)
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Robert Carter
: Hi Rebecca. Isn't trading partners a macroeconomic term, i.e., it usually refer to regions and countries?//On reflection, I think you're right, it's broader than that. ¡Saludos!
3 mins
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I's never thought of the term as being limited exclusively to regions or countries, although you would certainly find it in a glossary of macroeconomic terms.
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| agree |
neilmac
: I sometimes use this as wel...
16 hrs
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Thank, neilmac
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+1
6 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: Scottish, British) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
32
business associate
a standard UK Revenue term and, at times, criminal law concept cf. a 'business confederate' in US-Am. crime. 'X acting with confederates'.....
Example sentence:
Linguee: This continuity benefits not only Krones, but all its business associates as well. krones.cn No sólo Krones sino todos sus socios comerciales se benefician de esta continuidad. krones.cn
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
patinba
: I think you are missing the point. The context is about bribes from companies you do business with, not about bribing your own associates or partners.
10 mins
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You may have been out of the UK for too long. Its meaning does extend to any kind of business *contact*: https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/business-associate
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| agree |
AllegroTrans
: Yes, this also works
22 hrs
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Thanks- Wringfooted again, I never expected anyone to narrow the meaning to a partner in business-
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2 hrs
business client
If I do business with someone, they are not my partner, they are my client or customer. My business partner is someone I join with to go into business. Mr Marks and Mr Spencer were business partners.
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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-05-10 11:26:20 GMT)
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SEC Rules in the context of gifts refer to "Clients" "vendors" and "persons that do business with the firm" The use of "business partner" being proposed lacks the necessary clarity.
Gifts, Entertainment and Contributions - SEC.gov www.sec.gov › Archives › edgar › data
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Note added at 19 hrs (2020-05-10 11:26:20 GMT)
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SEC Rules in the context of gifts refer to "Clients" "vendors" and "persons that do business with the firm" The use of "business partner" being proposed lacks the necessary clarity.
Gifts, Entertainment and Contributions - SEC.gov www.sec.gov › Archives › edgar › data
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
philgoddard
: No, it could also be a supplier.
38 mins
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So as a translation supplier, is the person you provide them to a business partner?
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| neutral |
Robert Carter
: I think I had the same reservations as you, but the meaning seems to have broadened http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/business-partne...
2 hrs
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Your definition refers to an "exclusive" relationship between two companies, rather limiting the use.
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| neutral |
neilmac
: Nowadays it's widely used in the sense of anyone you do business with...
14 hrs
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| neutral |
AllegroTrans
: This is too narrow
1 day 3 hrs
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Reference comments
17 hrs
Reference:
Partners
As I noted in the discussion, nowadays "partners" is widely used, especially in online/EDI/e-commerce, to describe suppliers, customers, and basically anyone you do business with. The link below shows how "partner address book"contains a list of business contacts described as "partners", with instructions on how to add or remove partners from the list.
And the IBM link shows that they use the synonym "trading partner"…
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Note added at 20 hrs (2020-05-10 11:56:08 GMT)
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When translating from Spanish in EDI and similar contexts, "interlocutor" translates as "partner", like here:
- El acuerdo entre interlocutores EDI -> The agreement between EDI partners -
http://www.odoo-ondemand.es/en_US/blog/technology-and-busine...
https://www.linguee.com/spanish-english/translation/acuerdo ...
And the IBM link shows that they use the synonym "trading partner"…
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Note added at 20 hrs (2020-05-10 11:56:08 GMT)
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When translating from Spanish in EDI and similar contexts, "interlocutor" translates as "partner", like here:
- El acuerdo entre interlocutores EDI -> The agreement between EDI partners -
http://www.odoo-ondemand.es/en_US/blog/technology-and-busine...
https://www.linguee.com/spanish-english/translation/acuerdo ...
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
AllegroTrans
: yep, and other words such as contacts & associates and even buddies spring to mind
1 day 4 hrs
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Discussion