Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

arrendador de rentas

English translation:

tax collectors [private individuals]

Added to glossary by liz askew
Apr 20 17:07
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Spanish term

arrendador de rentas

Spanish to English Other History History (Spain)
It is curious that there seems to be NO standard translation for this historical term

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrendador_de_rentas

Tax collector?
Any way to translate this more precisely without having to circumlocute?
Change log

Apr 25, 2024 16:05: liz askew changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/593612">Justin Peterson's</a> old entry - "arrendador de rentas"" to ""tax collectors [private individuals]""

Discussion

Justin Peterson (asker) Apr 25:
Yes, but ... Yes, Deepl returns howlers on stuff like this ... specific historical terms, many colloquial terms, etc. But for general content, it is impressive.
neilmac Apr 21:
FYI I've been trying out Deepl lately and the best it could come up with for this was "lessor of rents". At this rate, I don't see it conquering the world all that soon.

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tax collectors [private individuals]

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EluHDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA34&lpg...

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https://journals.openedition.org/mcv/6781?lang=es.

Un aspecto que marca la relación público-privado en la historia de la hacienda es el arrendamiento de impuestos: una persona o compañía, encargada de recolectar los impuestos del rey. Su función aseguraba al rey sus ingresos fiscales. El mecanismo era, además, un sistema de préstamo. La contrapartida estaba en los supuestos grandes beneficios de los arrendatarios. La España del siglo xviii siguió el ejemplo inglés de eliminar los arrendamientos, al contrario de Francia, donde tal sistema se mantuvo casi todo el siglo. El artículo considera la valoración que la historiografía ha dado de estas realidades y se detiene a explicar, en particular, el proceso por el que España llegó a la supresión total de arrendamientos en 1749.

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https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=cq2dDgAAQBAJ&pg=PA600&lp...

here = tax farmers

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https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE|A238354975&sid=googleSch...

El arrendamiento de rentas constituyó una actividad cotidiana y permanente para un buen número de financieros durante las primeras décadas del siglo XVI. Este trabajo efrece algunas coordenadas fundamentales sobre la figura del arrendador de rentas y los grupos familiares o políticos que se encontraban detrás de ellos. Asimismo, plantea alguna características básicas de aquella hacienda con el objetivo de rastrear los orígenes del sistema fiscal de la Monarquía. El trabajo se ha realizado desde las premisas de la llamada New Fiscal History (Tracy), las precisiones metodológicas de M. Vester y las actuales corrientes de estudio sobre comunidades mercantiles. Palabras claves: Reyes Católicos, Carlos V, arrendadores de rentas, hacienda real, poder financiero. Tax farm was an usual and constant activity for a remarkable number of financiers during the first decades of XVIth Century. This work will try offering some characteristics about tax farmer and familiar or political groups that they protected to financiers. Moreover, this article will set out some elements of financial system of Hispanic Monarchy. The work has been achieved according to New Fiscal History (Tracy), M. Vester's methodological precisions and current analysis of merchants communities. Keywords: Catholics Kings, Charles V, tax farmers, fiscal system, financial power.


p.s. you may wish to keep the original Spanish with an explanation in brackets:)

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https://revistaseug.ugr.es/index.php/cnova/article/view/1845...


here = tax collector
Peer comment(s):

agree philgoddard : We don't know the context, so the basis on which they operated may or may not be relevant. But 'tax collectors' on its own should be fine.
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agree neilmac
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agree Elizabeth Joy Pitt de Morales
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agree Andrew Bramhall
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agree Wardys Mejia
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Yes, thanks"
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(Spanish Royal Exchequer &) Treasury financial agent

'There seems to be NO standard translation...'

Permutations and combinations:

1. again, there really is no standard translation
2. there is, but it isn't known either to the asker or generally
3- there is a rough historical equivalent or fuzzy match that works Transatlantically e.g. the Court of Exchequer does feature in US Am. law dictionaries and ought to be triggered by the Royal Spanish element, plus the IRS of the USA employs Treasury fnanical agents.

PS arrendador does not mean collector, but an (AmE) escrow agent or (BrE) revenue
stakeholder. In England, taxes used to collected on horseback, hence the date of the 5th April as the start of the tax year, allwoing 5 days to ride around the country. Note on the equine theme un arrendador: entry 3, Simon & Schuster: hitching ring (to which a horse is tied').

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employs Treasury financial agents...
Example sentence:

La recaudación de las rentas de la corona estuvo desde los tiempos más antiguos de la monarquía española,

US: Compensation to financial agents has grown from $378 million in fiscal year 2005 to $636 million in fiscal year 2015

Peer comment(s):

neutral liz askew : this is a historical text though, so how is this relevant?https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrendador_de_rentas
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tax collection agent

or Revenue Collection Agent

(PDF) Private agent for income tax collection

ResearchGate
https://www.researchgate.net › publication › 37081672...
May 17, 2023 — exchange for finding new taxpayers. The implementation of private tax collection agents is modelled after countries like. the United States, ...


June 1, 2022 - PA Department of Revenue

Pennsylvania Department of Revenue (.gov)
https://www.revenue.pa.gov › Documents › 2022...
PDF
Jun 1, 2022 — Additional Revenue Collection Agents were assigned to Bureau of Enforcement and Taxpayer Assistance (BETA), allowing the department to .
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