Do you have any experience working with Overcoming Church?
Thread poster: Lillian Popmijatov
Lillian Popmijatov
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Mar 18

Does anyone have any experience translating for Overcoming Church? They contacted me via email and wanted me to do a 500-word test, which is not standard. They agreed to pay for the 500 words along with my future payments if I pass the test. I'm not sure where to look for information on their payment practices. Any idea, anyone?

 
Thayenga
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Unpaid tests Mar 18

A free test translation should not exceed 200 to 300 words. You might want to offer doing the test for, let's say, 75% of your standard rate. Getting paid only after you have passed their test is quite a questionable procedure... to phrase it nicely.

I'm not insunuating anything here, but keep in mind that there is a possibility of getting a free translation by sending 500 words' tests to an unknown number of translators.

[Edited at 2024-03-18 09:45 GMT]


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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@Lillian Mar 18

There is a scam alert on Facebook about them: https://m.facebook.com/churchovercoming/photos/please-report-overcomingchurch1they-are-attempting-to-scam-peopleindyocc/2978651992248157/

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Kevin Fulton
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Importance of due diligence Mar 18

Every translator when getting an inquiry/offer out of the blue should ask "Why me?"
The internet can be your friend.
In this case it's important to consider why a church in Indianapolis, Indiana that serves a predominantly Black congregation might need a translation into Serbian.


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Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
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. Mar 18

It looks like scammers have left the big pharmas and decided to capitalize on the innate trust that many have for religious organizations.

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Daryo
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500 words as free test? Mar 18

Sounds like one of the oldest scams in the book: to get a large text done for free - just cut it in as large as possible "tests" given to several translators.

Never mind the plausibility of this particular church needing anything translated in Serbian.


 
Slobodan Kozarčić
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Maybe it's a scam, Mar 19

maybe not. But what kind of jobs can wait for over a year to be realized? A (too) long con? I have negotiated with them a year ago. They agreed to my rates (a little higher than my usual), even to pay everything upfront except for a half of the test. But they wanted me to use weird words in my translation, not usual for Serbian language and everyday speech, so I rejected it. Maybe deep in my mind I already thought it's a scam so this was a perfect excuse for me to reject it.

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maybe not. But what kind of jobs can wait for over a year to be realized? A (too) long con? I have negotiated with them a year ago. They agreed to my rates (a little higher than my usual), even to pay everything upfront except for a half of the test. But they wanted me to use weird words in my translation, not usual for Serbian language and everyday speech, so I rejected it. Maybe deep in my mind I already thought it's a scam so this was a perfect excuse for me to reject it.

I've just checked their emails. They were sent from Gmail address ([email protected]) and the church is located in Korea. So, Gmail is also a reason I have rejected it.

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Yasutomo Kanazawa
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@Maria Teresa Mar 23

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:

It looks like scammers have left the big pharmas and decided to capitalize on the innate trust that many have for religious organizations.


YES!!!

Doing God's work is a noble thing to do, and good-natured people who believe and love God will never think about scamming people, so you can trust us.

[Edited at 2024-03-23 07:03 GMT]


 
Robert Rietvelt
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@Yasutomo Mar 23

[quote]Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:


YES!!!

Doing God's work is a noble thing to do, and good-natured people who believe and love God will never think about scamming people, so you can trust us.

[Edited at 2024-03-23 07:03 GMT]


.... so you can trust us????????. Sounds to me like a butcher inspecting his own meat.

What is your doing with this church?

[Edited at 2024-03-23 11:54 GMT]


 
Yasutomo Kanazawa
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@Robert Mar 23

[quote]Robert Rietvelt wrote:

Yasutomo Kanazawa wrote:

Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida wrote:


YES!!!

Doing God's work is a noble thing to do, and good-natured people who believe and love God will never think about scamming people, so you can trust us.

[Edited at 2024-03-23 07:03 GMT]


.... so you can trust us????????. Sounds to me like a butcher inspecting his own meat.

What is your doing with this church?

[Edited at 2024-03-23 11:54 GMT]


I have nothing to do with this church. I was just trying to say that good-natured people tend to be gullible to these dubious religious organizations because they believe that they are doing a good deed. The scammer does not have to tell people to trust him/her directly; it is already implied when they tell people that they are from "so and so church".


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@Yasutomo Mar 23

OK, my wrong. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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IrinaN
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With all due respect Mar 24

For lots of truly good deeds done by small local churches on a community level, to what I, definitely not the most devoted church goer, can testify without hesitation for my area, churches have never been paying customers and never will be.

WHY would any church need any translation, not to mention a paid one????

Please keep your logical thinking On at all times.

In fact, I'd love to hear if anyone, ever, had a paid assignment from the church and can prove
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For lots of truly good deeds done by small local churches on a community level, to what I, definitely not the most devoted church goer, can testify without hesitation for my area, churches have never been paying customers and never will be.

WHY would any church need any translation, not to mention a paid one????

Please keep your logical thinking On at all times.

In fact, I'd love to hear if anyone, ever, had a paid assignment from the church and can prove me wrong.
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